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Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 Kayak – Built For Adrenaline Action?

The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 Kayak is designed and manufactured by a well known brand, Dagger. This kayak and creek boat is designed for big water with a well defined high-volume planing hull.

 

Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6

The Dagger Mamba Creeker model comes in three sizes, the largest among them being the 8.6 kayak. This larger size is offered in two variations: a river-runner model and a creeker model. The outfitting is, in fact, the only difference between the two variants. The creeker features a roto-molded seat, which is specifically designed to be more resistant to collapse.

 

Mamba 8.6 kayak seat

There is no reason to choose the river-runner model, in case you are planning to paddle on class III whitewater. In fact, for most paddlers, the creeker outfitting is the best option. Only school fleets could be an exception, if they need to easily and quickly adjust the seat position.

Back in 2012, the entire Mamba series had been revamped. Designers updated the edge profile, added volume, and tweaked the rocker profile, making a few changes to each of the three boat variants. In 2013, a new contour outfitting had been added to the Mamba line-up.

Read the rest of our Dagger Mamba Creeker review to find out if it is a reliable whitewater kayak for an adrenaline junkie like you!

 

Build Details of the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 Kayak…

The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 kayak can accommodate a paddler who weighs up to 200 pounds, and comes with moderate, recessed edges extending from the bow back to the paddler. At the back, the edges smooth out into a softer chine. The very high-volume stern, combined with the soft stern edge, allows this kayak model to make last-minute, quick adjustments in a rapid.

In a hastily initiated turn, the rounded edge prevents water from catching it. The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 stern is kept out of the water due to the boat’s volume, even when the kayaker is paddling from the backseat.

The defined planing hull and hard edge in the front give the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 kayak the ability to drive through big water, from a forward or a center body position, with a sporty feel. The Mamba creeker is also really safe due to the edges up front, and the kayak surfs pretty well. Its good performance is extremely noticeable when you drop into wave trains that have plenty of glassy overhead waves.

In these difficult conditions, the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 can carve across the waves in confident, big arcs. Because of the edges on the boat’s forward two thirds, the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 is superior on a wave.

 

Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 whitewater kayak

The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6’s frame can be classified as a more linear profile in the stern and a progressive kick-rocker in the bow. The center of the boat carries towards some of the rocker. The bow is kept riding up and over waves by the progressive bow rocker. When dropping off ledges or into a hole, the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 frame design makes it easier to get the bow up.

The longer waterline is created by the linear stern rocker, making this kayak model faster. When more of the stern drops into the water, the longer waterline will help with tracking at different speeds. The rocker profile has the advantage of featuring the slight creep of the rocker line toward the center, allowing the boat to pivot more easily than other models.

Looking at the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 kayak from above, the very wide knee box and relatively fine bow are immediately apparent. The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 boat’s widest point is wider than that of other models and the planing hull, combined with this characteristic. makes it feel a little boxy.

 

rapid riding

Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 kayak’s frame design provides exceptional primary stability (which means how stable it is just sitting the water). However, this comes at the expense of secondary stability (when the boat is on its side). The kayak doesn’t feel as solid as other models with better secondary stability. However, with only a little counter-lean, the primary stability allows users to take curlers and waves sideways. It’s all in the balance and technique of the paddler.

The Dagger Mamba Creeker’s wide mid-section tapers dramatically to the fine bow, ending in an up-turned point. This frame design works really well, however, for a whitewater boat, the Mamba 8.6 isn’t so fast in flat water due to its width. But the ability to drive the kayak aggressively through whitewater, combined with the extra speed gained from being able to punch through curlers and holes, makes the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 boat fast overall.

 

Features of the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 Kayak

The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 kayak comes with a rigid hard shell structure and a soft chine. Its cockpit type is the sit-inside variety, with a roto-molded seat, a leg lifter, and the seat track is welded-in. The boat features a round hull shape and comes with Contour Ergo Outfitting and an adjustable backband ratchet.

The adjustable Contour foot brace comes with a foam padding for increased comfort, and the tight braces are adjustable, as well as the hip pads. The kayak also features security grab handles for easier recovery from whitewater ejections or rollovers.

 

Enough Storage in the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6?

 

Dagger Mamba Creeker in four colors

The Dagger Mamba 8.6 is the largest model from the Mamba line-up, offering not only more volume, but improved volume distribution as well. The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 boat provides enough volume for maintaining good steering and keeping you above currents, even with the kayak loaded down with full gear and food provisions. It comes with room for multi-day equipment in the back.

 

Dagger Mamba Creeker Review Summary:

Pros

  • The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 is an excellent creeker and the boat of choice among race crowds
  • The boat provides lots of rocker and runs pretty fast
  • It comes with room for multi-day equipment in the back
  • This kayak is well constructed
  • The Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 is the largest model of the line-up, offering more volume, crisper control, increased speed, and improved volume distribution
  • Added safety features, including a handle near the cockpit, repositioned bow grab handle for easier access, and a molded-in stern foam wall holder for improved structural integrity
  • Allows learning paddlers to get a good idea about ferries, peel outs and good eddy turns
  • Intermediate to advanced kayakers are also at an advantage using the Dagger Mamba 8.6 creeker, due to its ability to paddle very well in almost any whitewater class

Cons

  • Some users find the Dagger Mamba Creeker 8.6 to have a bit too much rocker in the bow, engaging late on eddy lines
  • Kayakers who are more used to an aggressive chine may not like it
  • It is a very heavy boat

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Rave Sea Rebel Inflatable Kayak [2011]

Updated 09/3/2016 With Chart:

rave sea rebel 2011 in useIt sure looks pretty in this picture, now, doesn’t it?  Well, pretty doesn’t answer a lot of your questions so let’s get to it: Is the Rave Sea Rebel the bees knees? How does it fare compared to other rafts?

To start with, the Rave Sea Rebel inflatable kayak is a basic, one seater kayak that beginners and advanced kayakers both can enjoy.  Most people find it easy as heck to assemble and pumping it/inflating it takes around 10 minutes.  If you are under 6 feet tall, you will find the kayak to have enough room for you and your items.

Basic Measurements

The Sea Rebel kayak is pretty lightweight with 3 fins attached to the bottom which helps it trek straight in the water.  Once inflated, it comes out to be 8’7” x 35” x 8”; deflated, the kayak measures to be 8’10”x38”.  The maximum weight capacity is 200 pounds and the kayak is constructed with durable 420D nylon cover.  The kayak weighs 22 pounds.  Inflating it takes about 10 minutes on average (for first timers, it may take a bit longer).

Possible Issues With the BackRest

Most people find the backrest to work fine or have found a workaround to make it more comfortable while a couple reviews on Amazon mention how that the backrest is almost “useless”.  These kayaks are made like ‘one size fits all’ product meaning that a good number of us also have bad backs.  This means that with a budgeted inflatable kayak, you’re going to have to tweak the backrest/seat a bit to make it more comfortable to your needs.

Maneuverability

For an inflatable kayak, it steers well.  Going in a straight line is a bit of a task but once you learn how to work with it, it’s pretty smooth riding.  Having been tested in calm lakes and extremely light waves, the Sea Rebel performs well and even young children will enjoy using this kayak.

Aesthetics

The kayak comes in a sporty frame in a yellow colour and can be transported easily.  It’s one of the easier kayaks that can be deflated and put back in the bag (this can be a daunting task with some of the other inflatable kayaks).  One other pro is that the Sea Rebel is light enough to carry to your destination easily.

rave sea rebel inflatable kayak 2011The only ‘con’ is the room designated for your items.  This is located behind the seat (please view the image).  This isn’t as much of a con as it is a bit of an annoyance: to grab something, you kind of have to twist in place or reach around with your arm.

Excellent Reviews

The Rave Sea Rebel 2011 is not only priced really well but also, it has received great scores on Amazon (no 1 or 2 star reviews!)  All reviewers are extremely happy with the purchase of their Sea Rebel and the price makes it a worth purchase.

Verdict

The Rave Sea Rebel Inflatable Kayak is priced around $160-$200 and most folks on Amazon who have bought it think of it as not just a good kayak but a ‘great kayak’. If you are on a budget and want a solid buy, this inflatable kayak will NOT disappoint.

Rave Sea Rebel Features

InflatableYes
Inflation Time10 minutes
NMMA CertifiedNo
# of Seats1
Maximum Weight Capacity200 lbs
Inflated Size8’7” x 35” x 8”

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